EMU Legacy archive

Since Creative have taken the EMU Legacy pages offline, its not longer possible to get hold of for example OS updates for various devices such as the Proteus 2000, MP7, EMU Ultra etc. I am making available as much of the old material as possible here. Let me know in the comments if there's anything that's missing. Don't blame me if anything doesn't work (but please do let me know)!

(Edit: More recently some of these files have become available again  at http://www.creative.com/emu/support/downloads/legacy/ so its worth having a look there as well.)

Proteus

pcp2xr.zip
pcp3xr.zip
pcp1.zip
pcp2.zip
pcp1xr.zip
pcp3.zip

Proteus 1000

This should be the OS update you need if you have any of the following:

  • Proteus 1000
  • XL-1 (not the turbo version)
  • Mo'Phatt
  • B-3
  • Planet Earth

p1k226.zip

Proteus 2000

The Proteus 2000 family contains the following:

  • Proteus 2000
  • Virtuoso 2000
  • Turbo Phatt
  • Orbit-3
  • Vintage Pro
  • XL-1 (turbo version)

E-Loader_1.1_Install.zip
Proteus2KOp-E.pdf
Proteus Family SysEx 2.2.pdf
p2k226.zip
E-LoaderOperationManual.pdf
E-Loader_1.1_Install.sit

Proteus 2500

E-Loader_1.1_Install.zip
E-LoaderOperationManual.pdf
patterns2500.zip
Command200.zip

Ultra

EOS28CL.EXE
eos40manual.zip
462prep.zip
EOS410CL.EXE

MP7

MP7Op-F.pdf
MpToMp7SMFBanks.zip
E-Loader_1.1_Install.zip
Proteus Family SysEx 2.2.pdf
command200.zip
MP7Patterns.zip
CSprepreadme.txt
MpToMp7SMFBanks.zip
E-Loader_1.1_Install.zip
command200.zip
MP7Patterns.zip
MpToMp7MIDBanks.zip
E-LoaderOperationManual.pdf
E-Loader_1.1_Install.sit
Cmd_Sta_2.0_Addendum.pdf
MpToMp7MIDBanks.zip
E-LoaderOperationManual.pdf
E-Loader_1.1_Install.sit
commandprep10.dli

EOS

EOS28CL.EXE
EOS_FAT_Addend.pdf
eos28cl.sit
eos40manual.zip
EOS410CL.EXE
EOS4-0.pdf
EOS470.zip
EOSV461.EXE
eos_v461.sit
eos410cl.sit
EOS460Addend.pdf
EOS_V461.EXE
EOS_V460.EXE
EOS410UL.EXE

Misc

ORCH2_drummap.txt
XLEAD_drummap.txt
AOrch_drummap.txt
World_drummap.txt
PHATT_drummap.txt
TeCnO_drummap.txt
P123_drummap.txt
ZR_drummap.txt

Manuals

Audity 2000: Audity_2000.pdf
B3: B3_Manual.pdf
Mo'Phatt: MOPhattRevB.pdf
Orbit 3: E-Mu_Orbit-3_Manual.pdf
Planet Phatt: E-Mu_PlanetPhatt_Manual.pdf
Proteus 1000: E-Mu_Proteus1000_Manual.pdf
Proteus 2000: Proteus2KOp-E.pdf
Xtreme Lead-1: E-Mu_XL-1_Manual.pdf
Xtreme Lead-1 Turbo: XL1TurboOp-A.pdf
Vintage Pro: E-Mu_VintagePro_Manual.pdf
Virtuoso 2000: Virtuoso 2000.pdf

Proteus 2000 Family SysEx specification: Proteus Family SysEx 2.2.pdf
There is another site archiving the old emu files, the Emu Legacy Wiki, and the Proteus 2000 family yahoo group. Some manuals available here.

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103 Responses to EMU Legacy archive

  1. John Kress says:

    I have a copy of patterns2500.zip which contains the patterns and songs for the 2500. it's 289k so I can email it if you want to post it here. I alos have Proteus (1,2,3) and ProCussion manuals.
    Thanks for helping the E-mu legacy stuff.
    John Kress

  2. Lauren says:

    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0R9KX782

    O.S 2.26 for machines 64 voices: p1k2226

    Xl-1
    Mo-Phatt
    Planet Earth

  3. Nicolas says:

    Hi,
    it appears to be a sysex load/dump bug related with the 2.26 version of the OS of proteus 2000.
    Do someone know if this bug is ONLY related to MIDIQUEST softwares or it applies to ALLSYSEX softwares out there?
    Thank you
    Nicolas

    • frankster says:

      Do you have the latest version of the midiquest software? I believe there were some sysex changes between OS version 2.24 and 2.26 so if you don't have the latest version of the software, perhaps that could be the problem.

  4. Alex says:

    Hi Francis,
    today I found your website with your E-mu legacy support. I have a question please: the E-loader software seems to have been made for Apple Mac computers - does it also run on a PC/netbook with Windows XP SP3?
    Many thanks in advance -
    best wishes,
    Alex.

  5. gridsleep says:

    Creative have not stopped providing access to files for legacy hardware. Select "non-PC hardware" hot link on Creative's support page http://support.creative.com/Products/Products.aspx?catid=237 or go straight to the E-Mu/Ensoniq downloads at http://www.creative.com/emu/support/downloads/legacy/ where one can find all the documentation and firmware updates that were created while those companies were still viable. Thank you, frankster, for all the work you put into collecting and providing these file links in your post. I haven't made a line by line comparison, so you may well have all the E/E files here. I am downloading all those available from Creative, just in case. I did the same with Apple's legacy download page (over 1300 files, one at a time, re-stored in their appropriate sub-directories; I always suspected I might be mad, and that Herculean task might be proof of the pudding!) People say what goes on the 'net stays on the 'net. I agree, but only for those parts of the 'net not controlled by corporations. For that, we individuals must bank and safeguard precious data, before it is lost in thoughtless acts of storage reclamation or spiteful denial.

    • frankster says:

      Yep, fortunately Creative have put these files back online now. Hopefully they will stay up forever (but I shall keep these copies here just in case!). Perhaps you could give me a list of the files you have downloaded and I could check that I have everything?

      • Raybald says:

        Seems that they are not available over there anymore.

        • Glenn Fin says:

          This blows...... I updated the firmware on my B3 and now it's stuck in multi mode.... can't go back with the older firmware file!!

          • Dr. Steve says:

            The legacy documentation at http://www.emu.com (or creative) comes and goes. Its there for a while, then it disappears, then it comes back--sometimes with a link that you can only get to if you know what it is.

            When Frankie and I decided to host docs, I believe it had disappeared two and returned two times before. Several months later, it returned. After being there for close to a year, it disappeared again. A couple of weeks ago, I saw a new link posted somewhere and sure enough, it worked--at least for the time being.

            My take is not that creative is evil or anything like that. I believe periodically they revise their site to meet their current needs. Since the so-called legacy gear is probably a low priority, it probably doesn't get put back (or put somewhere; or linked somewhere) until after a lot of other stuff is done first.

            But I believe creative is proud of the e-mu lineage. (If not, they should be!!!) The legacy support will probably continue to disappear and hopefully reappear.

            In the interim, kudos to the frankster (and others) who keep the docs consistently available.

            As of today, the link that works (at least on my PC) is: http://www.creative.com/emu/support/downloads/legacy/

            BTW, the waybackmachine does have some cool historical website captures, but the last time I checked (probably 6-12 months ago), they did not capture the docs--possibly because creative went to an eula system that didn't used to exist at http://www.emu.com and which now requires a response.

            To the best of my knowledge the files Frankie and others have made available were obtained before the eula system, before Microsoft's DRM system, etc. Let's face it, it is called legacy gear for a reason--namely, it dates back so long there is no expectation that any more money can be made--except by people that horded sound ROMs and are now selling them on ebay at prices higher than any time in the past ten years or so. And I doubt that any of that "markup" is going to the sound designers!

          • frankster says:

            Thanks Steve, I've put a link to Creative's current site at the top of the article.

  6. Charles Arnoldi says:

    What file is version 2 or higher for the Proteus 2500?
    Thanks

  7. Steven Clements says:

    NOTE: reinitializing will overwrite the RAM with factory preset data. If You Have Any custom presets be safe to back them up!

    To Reinitialize a Proteus 2000 family unit back to Factory Specs do the Following:

    First turn the power off. Once You have done this:
    1) Hold Both CURSOR KEYS (Arrow Keys) down and turn on the POWER at the same time. Hold the cursor keys Until the unit boots up test in the DIAGNOSTICS menu.

    2)Let go of the CURSOR KEYS. Turn the DATA WHEEL to the right Until you see as the INITIALIZE USER DATA menu choice.

    3) Press the HOME / ENTER button twice.

    4) Upon completion of the reinitialization process you should see in the display 'Calibrate Knobs'. If you wish to calibrate knobs then press Home / Enter twice and follow the directions in the display. Otherwise turn the unit off and on again and begin using it normally.

    Now all the factory preset information is restored.

  8. paul says:

    can somone please put os 2.24 for proteaus on here.I have looked and can only find 2.26 and 2.21.I would like the recommended 2.24

  9. Alex says:

    Hi Francis,

    recently I encountered a strange observation regarding the sound behaviour of my Proteus 2500. Sounds have a rather unusual tremolo that I cannot influence (tried many things to track that down already).

    Do you have a fresh OS 2.0 for Proteus 2500 ?

    Can I dump the OS 2.0 direct into the Proteus 2500 via E-Loader (you sent me the Windows version before)? or do I need another file, named commandprep10.dli? (if you have it, pls send it to me as well)

    Many thanks in advance!
    Yours, Alex from Berlin.

    quote from yahoo groups
    Re: Upgrade to OS 2.0: download fail (HOW TO SUCCEED!)
    Posted By: adrian.gay Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:09 am |

    I just had the same problem trying to upgrade an MP-7 that had OS 1.31. The
    solution is to first download the bootloader "commandprep10.dli", even though
    the E-loader documentation says this is unnecessary. Then download the version
    2.0 OS. All working fine now for me.

    • Russ says:

      im trying to download emu mp7 OS. Running Windows 8 and E-Loader is installed. I have downloaded commandprep10 and command200, but in E-Loader i cant get it to recognize emu device. It shows Yamaha UX16-1, which im using for MIDI connect. Its been tough getting help with this mp7 os and i know its old. Please respond if you could help. Thanks

      • Steve says:

        In another forum, someone posted that e-loader 1.1 works under Windows 10. I don't think I have tested it, but will if you are still having the problem.

      • Steve says:

        I just tested X-Loader 1.1 under Win10. All I did was check to see if X-Loader would find my P2500 under "Scan for MIDI Devices." It did. I used an E-Mu Xmidi 2x2 usb interface, making sure both midi in and out were pointed to my interface.

        If you are using a Yamaha 1x1 interface and E-loader is setup with that interface as the both the in and out port, the first diagnostic question I'd as is does it work with note data. In not, make sure the cables are connected correctly (computer out to E-Mu in; computer in to E-Mu out). If note data doesn't work, you might need to diagnose the midi interface's drivers, the computer's enumeration and recognition of the interface as hardware, etc.

        If note data works both ways (e.g., record to daw and playback from daw), test sysex. I have read repeatedly that 1x1 usb midi interfaces have issues handling (among other things) sysex data. If sysex is not working properly in both directions, I recommend betting a non-1x1 usb interface.

        Hope this helps.

        Steve

  10. tuyenviolin says:

    EXCUSE ME, SIR!
    WOULD YOU PLEASE GUIDE ME OUT THIS PROBLEM( I CALL IT "DUMP SOUNDING PATCH SET RECEIVED") ?
    WHEN I USE MIDIQUEST XL 10.5 ON PC TO LOAD PROTEUS 2000 FAMILY FILES SYX/MID DOWNLOADED ON INTERNET INTO MY EMU TURBO PHATT (UPDATED OS V2.26), TRANSFERING WAS COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY ! I HAVE GOT ALL THE NAMES OF ALL PATCHES IN SET IN THE USER SECTION OF THE TURBO PHATT. WHEN I PLAY EVERY USER PATCH THAT THE TURBO PHATT RECEIVED( VIA A MIDI KEYBOARD), WHAT I HAD GOT IS JUST A TOTAL SILENT SOUND PATCH SET! ( MIDI CHANNEL = 1, SYSEX ID = 000 CHECKED!)
    HOW DO I SOLVE THIS PROBLEM?
    DOES EMU RESTRICT THE CROSS TRANSFERING THE SOUND PATCH SET SYX/MIDI FILES AMONG THE PROTEUS FAMILY MODULES?
    THANKS FOR YOUR KINDLY GUIDE!

    • frankster says:

      Correct - the patches rely on samples which are in a particular sound bank. Different proteus modules come with different rom sound banks, so in general you cannot copy patches from one Proteus module to a different one. It would require the sound rom to be placed into each. So for example if you put a proteus 2000 sound bank (the composer rom) inside your turbo phatt, then you would be able to use patches from the proteus 2000 in it.

      • tuyenviolin says:

        THANK YOU SIR SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELPFUL GUIDE!
        NOW, EMU HAS STOPPED ROM PRODUCTION FOR AGES, SO OUR ROMS-ESSENTIAL NEED CAME TO THE DEAD-END! OH-HO!

      • Benediktron says:

        Hi there! i read about the patch bank transfer. I have the same problem. My workaround was adjunsting the samples one by one -you'r right, Frankster, for some strange reason, only the other data in every patch is correctly transferred. I think it was an ommision from E-mu.
        But i think that with a text editor the soundbanks can be manually modified. ¿did someone try this?

  11. marc says:

    Hey,

    Everytime I try and restore the EMU images to floppy, I get an error 9 in the DOS prompt, the floppys are fine, tested, going mad here, cant find an answer anywhere, anyone help please?

    • Roy says:

      I had the same problem. I got the error 9 while trying to make the disk under WinXP. I had to reinstall my pc with Win98 and then I was able to make the disk. Yeah it was a pain in the butt!

  12. Will Karas says:

    I've been told that there's a way to upgrade from EOS 3.x to 4,x for the e-64.
    But by replacing the ROM; is that true, and if so, where could i get a hold of the required gear?

    Thanks!

  13. raf says:

    hello, i have e-mu mp7 1.10 and i m looking for "commandprep10.dli" and i don't find
    help me please

  14. raf says:

    hello i don't found that file; if it's possible you put this file
    thanks my dear

  15. Jimmy Makhaisingh says:

    I have 2 questions...

    I have a E4 platinum...which doesnt boot, there is something with the rom....

    I also have a 6400Ultra with 4../1?

    What are the options I have....the Platinum boots well with the rom from the Ultra...so probably i need a new rom?

    Please help,

    Regards,

    Jim

  16. Matthias says:

    Hello,

    Where can i find EOS 3?

  17. Benediktron says:

    Please tell me if there'es any big difference between 2.2 and 2.6 ¿is it worthy to uograde?
    Thanks.

  18. Jermell Burnett says:

    I am having a problem with my mophatt it does not play all the sounds across the keyboard of my midi controller I noticed to that when I added the x-rom at boot it some sounds will not load and it also would not play sounds across the whole keyboard but I tested them both in my proteus 1000 they all played sounds across the my midi keyboard and I did not get the some sounds will not load message do think you know what this could be thank you.

  19. jordi says:

    you are the best!

    Thanks a lot!

    Jordi

  20. Szalai István says:

    I ask the admin. Is it the mp7 os above ( i assume it is the command200.zip) compatible with the xl7 command station, i'm getting soon a untit with 1.1 os, i need to upgrade it .

    thank you

  21. sage brooks says:

    im saving up for an xl1 and have a couple questions.. it seems most of the ones on ebay have the older os. so whats the difference between the units with operating systems v1.xx and v2.xx? if i bought an older one is it hard to upgrade to the newest os version?thanks

  22. Bruce Wicklander says:

    Greetings! I have a Proteus 2000 that I want to upgrade the OS. I tried using the ELoader program with no success. ELoader says the DLI file isn't a valid OS, when I drop the DLI file onto the ELoader. Has anyone had success with upgrading the OS to 2.26? I got the files from here, but they aren't working for me. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

    • Bruce Wicklander says:

      The DLI file I was using was for the Eloader for windows. So I installed XP on my Mac and the Windows Eloader program. The DLI file was recognized and was able to upgrade to 2.26. All's well. The DLI files won't work with the Mac Eloader. Thanks for this site.

  23. Paul Glover says:

    My EMU Planet Earth module -
    When I adjust the arp beats per minute for a patch and then try to go back to
    see or hear other sounds, it freaks out and freezes with a command that says -
    "Making Back up". Not only back up of what, I don't know, but freezes so I have to keep
    rebooting the module just to view other sounds on the main panel. This is not normal.
    No where in the manual nor on line do I see anything about a factory reset for this module. Any suggestions? Thanks, Paul
    send to BandOfLife@gmail.com

  24. john says:

    I am looking for an operating system for emu Pk-6 proteus keys
    Does anyone have the right dli file ?

  25. @lter Ego says:

    Do you or anyone you know happen to have a Patch name script (xml format) for the E-MU Mo-Phatt?

  26. Merlin The Ripehunger says:

    I put my EMU virtuoso 2000 in storage for a year and just took it, plugged it in pushed the button to turn it on and nothing happened. I changed the power cord three times, with different cords and still nothing. Does anybody know what could be wrong with the unit. Please walk me through the problem to fix it.

  27. marc says:

    hello

    i'm also searching for the pk/xk/vk/mk 6 OS, the file im searching for is:

    kybd102.dli or kybd101.dli or kybd107.dli

    is there any one who can help?
    the pk6 yahoo group has it for download, but im still waiting to be a "approved" member

    tnanx!!

  28. Sebastian says:

    Firstly, thanks for supplying all these files!...

    I'm struggling big time here and been trawling forums to find out what's wrong but not having luck.

    I own an e5000 running EOS 4.62 and I want to update to 4.70.

    I'm using a laptop running Windows 7 with an external USB powered floppy drive.

    I bought some brand new Verbatim floppy discs labelled 1.44mb but is only showing 1.38mb in Windows. This seems to be a common problem!! The EOS470.exe is 1.41mb and I can't get it onto the floppy..

    How was this done back in the day?

    Any help at this stage would be greatly appreciated.

  29. Nick says:

    Hi Francis, thanks for this resource. I just had a Procussion module repaired (psu) and am trying to locate a manual. It seems very hard to find- any suggestions or links?
    Thanks so much!
    Nick

  30. Hans de Vries says:

    I have two E64 samplers. Problem: I can't save the EOS410CL.EXE onto a diskette. What can I do?!? Could it work from a Linux OS? I have given up on Win 8.1 - it just won't fit a 2HD 3.5 inch diskette....

  31. Brian says:

    HELP I have a emu mp7 I have done reset both ways and have done audio test and I can hear tones and everything but I go to press the drum pad or play a pattern and I get no sound at all from headphones or the back outputs. Anyone have this problem before?
    I have even taken out the sound expansion and put it back in and tested for it.
    nothing is working.

    highlyfocused365@gmail.com

  32. andre says:

    Hello !

    I was looking over to find XL7 originals preset ? any idea ?

    Thanks a lot !

  33. AshokanKid says:

    Hey there;

    New (very excited) EMU MP7 owner here. COOL looking machine~!

    Two questions;

    1. There are 2 SIMM / ROM cards in my machine. Is there a way for me to tell / find out which two cards are installed? I've opened the unit and the cards do not seem to have the sticker on them, oops. So, is there a way from the control panel for me to determine which two SIMM / ROM cards are installed?

    2. OK, so our ROM cards are "normal" (?) SIMMs, right? Is there any way to make / create our own ROM / SIMM cards? Can they be copied from another card in some way? Making our own SIMM / ROM cards could be awesome.

    Thanks~!

    AK

    • Steve says:

      Did you ever figure this out?
      (1) Press Preset Vewi/Mode. The upper right should have the basic name of the ROM of the currently selected preset--e.g., XROM, P2500, etc.
      (2) With an E-Mu Ultra Sampler and an E-Mu Flash ROM, you can burn your own samples. Then, with an E-Mu ROMpler (such as the P2ks and the Command Stations), you can author P2k style presets.
      Hope this helps someone.
      Steve

  34. Gerard says:

    Hi, I'm a complete newbie in synths, MIDI and all this stuff. I hope I can get some help here. I just bought in eBay an e-Mu Vintage Keys keyboard and also a Vintage Keys sound module (the sound patches are not all the same in both devices).
    Is it possible to copy some of the presets from the sound module into the RAM presets in the keyboard? If so, how?
    Thanks!
    Gerard

  35. CaseyD says:

    Nice site, thanks for your work.

    I have a XL-1 Turbo, and I understand it can copy ROMS.

    Does anyone know what the EPROMS used by EMU in this line actually _are_? Before I go to far down this path I want to see if the hardware is still available.

    • Steve says:

      Not sure if you found this out yet, but with an E-Mu Ultra Sampler and an E-Mu Ultra Flash SIMM, you can burn samples and then with an E-Mu ROMpler you can create p2k style presets. I seem to recall reading you cannot copy E-Mu factory ROMs to a Flash SIMM.
      Steve

  36. Eric says:

    Hello, question about the Proteus 2000 firmware.
    I've got a Virtuoso 2000 with a 1.x firmware. If I upgrade it to the 2.x p2k firmware here, is it still going to boot as Virtuso or is it going to turn it into a generic Proteus 2000?

    • Eric says:

      I answered my own question by just going ahead and doing it: the firmware is the same for all the 2000-series EMU romplers, and the virtuoso remains a virtuoso, as per boot up screen animation, but now has a newer OS. It was super easy with eLoader, even though I was using eLoader for an XL-7

  37. chiptraxxx says:

    Yeeeeez i have 2 Proteus 2000 and going for my third now :)

  38. Shawn Gordon says:

    The file E-LoaderOperationManual.pdf for the 2500 is the 'patterns.zip' file as well. My 2500 just freezes on boot with all the lights on and I was going to try the e-loader but I don't know anything about it. thanks.

  39. Paul says:

    Help! I just did a factory reset, and when I rebooted, there were no presets at all. None of the factory presets came back! They all say "blank preset". Any ideas?

  40. Paul says:

    I also am having an issue with sound output - there is no sound at all through the headphones nor any outputs.
    Midi is set to "omni" receive, and the midi light is a solid green, which I assume shows connection.
    Any help there would be appreciated, too!

  41. Paul says:

    So sorry to the moderator - I did get my questions answered. No need to post the other ones.
    Thanks for running a great site!

    • frankster says:

      For the benefit of anybody else that comes here, which emu device do you have, and what was the solution to your problem?

  42. Mike B says:

    This forum is my last hope, I'm stumped with my issue. I'm using a proteus 2000 with os 2.26 , I cannot play multiple keys on the my controller simultaneously, so playing chords are impossible cause it will only play the 1st key that is struck,it mutes out any keys struck after unless I release the 1st, never seen anything like this with any of my EMU racks/synths only this one. I would like anyone's thoughts on this before I initialize the device, thank you. Mike B

    • frankster says:

      It sounds like something somewhere's set to mono mode

      • Mike B says:

        I figured it out, next to the pan is a A for arp trigger, it was set to on, turned off, fixed it immediately, each track has that preset, never even noticed it, thanx for the quick response frankster.

  43. tsuggs says:

    Hey Everyone!!
    I have a xl7, when i power up, all the lights stay on & it freezes. After a few minutes , i get a ' Err: A[] bit stuck low A1-- continue?' The only button that works is the soft power on/off. when i turn it off , it takes longer for the same message to re-appear.

  44. Juan Carlos Manca says:

    Hello,
    Please, i search a ultime operative system for E-mu keyboard PK6.
    Thank you, JC

  45. Frazer Henry says:

    Many thanks for your helpful web page - The file have helped me upgrade my OS for my 2500 - I still have a problem with patterns 040(SE Jive) & 057 (Make it Stop) - they freeze the machine and I can only reboot. Does any body have a solution?

  46. Dear Francis,
    I have tried so many times to resolve the problems I am experiencing with updating my Proteus 2000 operating system software version 1.11 to 1.26 but without success,I would also appreciate a copy of version 1.24 if possible.

    The following files I downloaded from your web site :
    1/ E-Loader 1.1 Installer.exe
    2/ E-Loader operation manual.
    3/ p2k226.dli
    E-Loader_1.1_Install.zip
    
Proteus2KOp-E.pdf

    Proteus Family SysEx 2.2.pdf
    
p2k226.zip
    
E-LoaderOperationManual.pdf

    E-Loader_1.1_Install.sit

    I would also like to thank you for taking your time and effort setting up your web site with E-MU system software updates and other programs for us to use,i'm sure I speak for us all that it is very well appreciated.

    I have taken the time and effort sending emails to CREATIVE requesting parts and updates and they have not the common decency to reply to any of them,it's that sort of attitude that can ruin the reputation of a long standing company,I clearly remember the great old Emulators 1 & 2 as seen on the BBC Top of the Pops being used by bands such as Depeche Mode and Thomas Dolby,it is a shame it seems Creative have little respect for the E-MU company's hard work and past ground breaking advances in audio technology,without us there is no Creative I hope they read this and show us a little respect by replying to our emails.

    MY SETUP
    Computer : Mac Pro 2.1 (8 core) Year 2007
    Processor : 2 x 3Ghz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
    Memory : 16 GB 667 MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM
    Startup Disk : Snow Leopard version 10.6

    USB 2.0 MIDI lead : Simple cable with a USB connector on one end and one separate standard 5 pin MIDI IN and separate standard 5 pin MIDI Out on the other.I purchased this from Maplins and although it is for USB 2.0 they assured me it is compatible with USB 1.0 and anything in between so I don't think it's a cable issue,however I might be wrong?

    Parallels Desktop 8 build 8.0.18354
    Windows XP Home edition version 2002 Service Pack 2

    PROTEUS 2000 SETUP: MASTER parameters:
    MIDI MODE : POLY - accepted
    MIDI SYSEX DEVICE ID : 1
    MIDI SYSEX PACKET DELAY : 300 Milliseconds

    PROCEDURE : I turn on the Mac,start Parallels 8,start Windows XP and finally start E-Loader 1.1

    E-loader 1.1
    E-LOADER TOOLBAR - MIDI SETUP
    INPUT PORT - USB Audio Device
    OUTPUT PORT - USB Audio Device
    SysEx DEVICE ID - 1

    Windows XP has created the Proteus 2000 ID as USB Audio Device

    E-LOADER TOOLBAR - MIDI MONITOR
    INPUT DEVICE : USB Audio Device
    DISPLAY FORMAT - Text
    SHOW FILTERS - ENABLE DISPLAY OF - All boxes are ticked/on.

    I sent a single MIDI patch SysEx dump from my Proteus 2000 to E-Loader's MIDI MONITOR BOX and this information was displayed there,so no issues sending and receiving data from my Proteus 2000 to E-Loader.

    E-LOADER TOOLBAR - MIDI TRACKER
    DEVICE : USB Audio Device
    Clicking any of the MIDI blocks on screen sends the corresponding MIDI Note from E-Loader to my Proteus 2000 which in turn plays that information,so no issues with midi reception.

    E-LOADER TOOLBAR - SEQUENCE BANK BROWSER
    DEVICE : USB Audio Device
    UPLOAD : This feature does not work with my Proteus 2000,I receive the following error message:

    "Some of the items selected for upload indicate their names were not successfully loaded.You must refresh the names before proceeding OK"

    This message is displayed again even after selecting REFRESH prior to UPLOAD.

    E-LOADER TOOLBAR - OS DOWNLOADER
    FILE SELECTION - SELECT DOWNLOADABLE OS FILE
    I selected the P1K226 file.
    TARGET SELECTION DEVICE - SELECT MIDI DEVICE
    DEVICE : USB Audio Device
    DOWNLOAD - DOWNLOAD OS File to Target
    STATUS : waiting for download request

    At this point as instructed in the E-Loader 1.1 manual,I turned on the Proteus 2000 while holding in the AUDITION and HOME/ENTER buttons to request the OS Update and E-Loader displayed the following message :

    STATUS : multiple requests received (must be resolved)

    I am not sure how to resolve this problem and would appreciate any help on updating the Proteus 2000 and advice on where I may have gone wrong with E.Loader 1.1 procedures and look forward to your reply.
    Thank you Francis,
    All the best.
    Ian

  47. Dear Francis,
    I have tried so many times to resolve the problems I am experiencing with updating my Proteus 2000 operating system software version 1.11 to 2.26 but without success,I would also appreciate a copy of version 2.24 if possible.

    The following files I downloaded from your web site :
    1/ E-Loader 1.1 Installer.exe
    2/ E-Loader operation manual.
    3/ p2k226.dli
    E-Loader_1.1_Install.zip
    
Proteus2KOp-E.pdf

    Proteus Family SysEx 2.2.pdf
    
p2k226.zip
    
E-LoaderOperationManual.pdf

    E-Loader_1.1_Install.sit

    I would also like to thank you for taking your time and effort setting up your web site with E-MU system software updates and other programs for us to use,i'm sure I speak for us all that it is very well appreciated.

    I have taken the time and effort sending emails to CREATIVE requesting parts and updates and they have not the common decency to reply to any of them,it's that sort of attitude that can ruin the reputation of a long standing company,I clearly remember the great old Emulators 1 & 2 as seen on the BBC Top of the Pops being used by bands such as Depeche Mode and Thomas Dolby,it is a shame it seems Creative have little respect for the E-MU company's hard work and past ground breaking advances in audio technology,without us there is no Creative I hope they read this and show us a little respect by replying to our emails.

    MY SETUP
    Computer : Mac Pro 2.1 (8 core) Year 2007
    Processor : 2 x 3Ghz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
    Memory : 16 GB 667 MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM
    Startup Disk : Snow Leopard version 10.6

    USB 2.0 MIDI lead : Simple cable with a USB connector on one end and one separate standard 5 pin MIDI IN and separate standard 5 pin MIDI Out on the other.I purchased this from Maplins and although it is for USB 2.0 they assured me it is compatible with USB 1.0 and anything in between so I don't think it's a cable issue,however I might be wrong?

    Parallels Desktop 8 build 8.0.18354
    Windows XP Home edition version 2002 Service Pack 2

    PROTEUS 2000 SETUP: MASTER parameters:
    MIDI MODE : POLY - accepted
    MIDI SYSEX DEVICE ID : 1
    MIDI SYSEX PACKET DELAY : 300 Milliseconds

    PROCEDURE : I turn on the Mac,start Parallels 8,start Windows XP and finally start E-Loader 1.1

    E-loader 1.1
    E-LOADER TOOLBAR - MIDI SETUP
    INPUT PORT - USB Audio Device
    OUTPUT PORT - USB Audio Device
    SysEx DEVICE ID - 1

    Windows XP has created the Proteus 2000 ID as USB Audio Device

    E-LOADER TOOLBAR - MIDI MONITOR
    INPUT DEVICE : USB Audio Device
    DISPLAY FORMAT - Text
    SHOW FILTERS - ENABLE DISPLAY OF - All boxes are ticked/on.

    I sent a single MIDI patch SysEx dump from my Proteus 2000 to E-Loader's MIDI MONITOR BOX and this information was displayed there,so no issues sending and receiving data from my Proteus 2000 to E-Loader.

    E-LOADER TOOLBAR - MIDI TRACKER
    DEVICE : USB Audio Device
    Clicking any of the MIDI blocks on screen sends the corresponding MIDI Note from E-Loader to my Proteus 2000 which in turn plays that information,so no issues with midi reception.

    E-LOADER TOOLBAR - SEQUENCE BANK BROWSER
    DEVICE : USB Audio Device
    UPLOAD : This feature does not work with my Proteus 2000,I receive the following error message:

    "Some of the items selected for upload indicate their names were not successfully loaded.You must refresh the names before proceeding OK"

    This message is displayed again even after selecting REFRESH prior to UPLOAD.

    E-LOADER TOOLBAR - OS DOWNLOADER
    FILE SELECTION - SELECT DOWNLOADABLE OS FILE
    I selected the P1K226 file.
    TARGET SELECTION DEVICE - SELECT MIDI DEVICE
    DEVICE : USB Audio Device
    DOWNLOAD - DOWNLOAD OS File to Target
    STATUS : waiting for download request

    At this point as instructed in the E-Loader 1.1 manual,I turned on the Proteus 2000 while holding in the AUDITION and HOME/ENTER buttons to request the OS Update and E-Loader displayed the following message :

    STATUS : multiple requests received (must be resolved)

    I am not sure how to resolve this problem and would appreciate any help on updating the Proteus 2000 and advice on where I may have gone wrong with E.Loader 1.1 procedures and look forward to your reply.
    Thank you Francis,
    All the best.

  48. Steve says:

    It sounds like you are experiencing some major frustration. My understanding is that e-loader dates back to the days of Win98SE and might have been updated to work with XP. As for Mac, there are some who say it does not and will not work. There may be others who have gotten it to work. I am totally unfamiliar with Mac emulation of earlier operating systems. My guess is that midi system exclusive might not be fully functional. Also, there can be so many causes to midi communication issues, especially since midi interface drivers are involved.

    Unless someone with a Mac has figured out how to get legacy software such as e-loader to work, I'd suggest getting a hold of an old windows PC. I cannot remember if I ever have had e-loader 1.1 working under Windows 7.

    Without knowing anything about Macs, and without knowing your setup, I am at a loss to diagnose your issue further. I do know that many people have had problems with 1 in/1 out usb midi interfaces. That could be part of the problem--actually it could be an issue with the drivers. I have read that some usb/midi "cables" cannot do sysex or cannot do sysex sufficiently well, or they have issues with running status, two-way communication, etc.

    You could try borrowing a PC and a reliable midi interface to upgrade the OS.

    Wish I could be more helpful.

    Steve

    • Hello Steve,
      Thank you for your reply I appreciate your time and advice.I have used the following OS for the Proteus 2000 in Windows XP:
      1/ p2k226.dil
      2/ E-Loader 1.1 Installer.exe

      I have followed the system software update procedures set out in the E-Loader operation manual,when I turn on the Proteus 2000 while holding in the AUDITION and HOME/ENTER buttons to request the OS Update E-Loader displayed the following message :

      STATUS : multiple requests received (must be resolved)

      I have also set the Proteus ID to zero but makes no difference.
      I have an old Mac G4 and have today purchased a copy of the old OS9 operating system which should be with me by Thursday and will let you know how I get on.Many thanks Steve,all the best.
      Ian

  49. Steve says:

    PS: It might not help, but try using sysex ID = 0, not 1. Also, I tested an iconnectivity mio a couple of years ago with sysex transfers between a Windows 7 laptop and a Casio CZ synthesizer. http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/usb-to-midi-adapter-cable-a03fk Is that the one you have?
    Steve

  50. Steve says:

    PPS: >> I selected the P1K226 file.
    If you have a Proteus 2000, I believe you need an OS that starts with P2K. And as for wanting OS 2.24 instead of OS 2.26, I believe there is one software package (librarian) that for some reason people have said doesn't work with OS 2.24. If you are using that software (don't ask me the name), it might make sense to go with OS2.24.

  51. Swap C says:

    Hi there! I've got an old Audity 2000 on v1.0 firmware. Is there any way of upgrading to later firmware? Apologies if this is the wrong place to post this!

    • Steve says:

      Not sure if you resolved this yet. I know next to nothing about the Audity 2000. However, I do know there is an a2k201.dli file floating around the internet. Not sure if that's the most recent or how to update an Audity 2000.
      Steve

  52. Paul T says:

    Hi, I have 2 Proteus 2000s and rather ill advisedly attempted to swap an Orchestral Sessions Vol 1 card from one to the other with the power still on. Now it is dead and not recognised in either machine (it was working fine before). Is there anything I can do, or is it fried for good?

    • Steve says:

      EEEEEEK! Major bummer. Two thoughts: (1) What does E-Mu diagnostics report for the ROM (including the checksum test)? (2) Is diagnostics says its bad, you could try putting it into an E-Mu Ultra Sampler to see if the samples are still there. The samples and the p2k based presets are stored in different parts of the ROM, so perhaps you didn't fry the whole thing.
      Steve

  53. Jimbo Bigbelly says:

    Thanks for the site frankster. To ian & steve: i tried updating my Proteus 2000 using vista and failed .I use my archived win 2k desktop with a mediator and have no problems

  54. Philip says:

    Thanks for this archive. After finding an old laptop running xp I managed to (after installing a midi interface on the old laptop!!!!) upgrade my old p2k from 1.24 to 2.26 and now have arps and all those new filters! Thanks! For the information of others it failed to complete the first two times but worked the third time so do persevere!

  55. Ash says:

    Hi, can you tell me if it is possible to load your own samples/wavs into the EMU Proteus 2500, via the E-Loader or other software?

    Cheers!

    • Steve says:

      No. See comments I just posted to other questions about the E-Mu Ultra Sampler and E-Mu Flash SIMMS. Also, the P2500 can serve as a midi controller for softsynths, including the E-Mu softsynths (Proteus X and Emulator X series). Not sure if you can find the E-Mu page that has the free Proteus VX software.

      With the Proteus X2 software, there's a utility that converts emulator (e-mu sampler) files to *.exb files. I am not sure, but maybe that can be used to convert wav files for the e-mu softsynth line.
      Steve

  56. patrick eagan says:

    Hope you don't mind if i trouble you with this question. I have acquired an Emu extreme lead v1 module without any Roms installed. It has its Dram installed. It is running OS v1.00. It does not recognize any roms when they are installed. I have tried the following Roms: TeCnO , Phatt, and Vintage. I do not have the original Extreme Rom. It gives the " User not installed" message after power up. The diagnostic menu operates properly. Will an OS upgrade possibly help? Or is tbe Extreme Lead motherboard looking to find the Extreme Rom in one of the Rom slots, thus allowing the second slot to work for expansion? Basically do i need to at least have the Extreme Rom Installed to use the module? Is there some code on the extreme Rom that the motherboard is looking for. Thanks for any info, Patrick

  57. Steve says:

    I assume you mean you have an XL-1 with OS 1.00. Below is a release note for OS 1.03. If you do indeed have an XL-1, I suggest upgrading the OS (if you haven't done so already). Hope this helps.
    Steve

    RELEASE NOTES: Proteus 2000 Version 1.03 Final, July 14, 1999
    Problems Fixed in Version 1.03
    "User / (not installed)" no longer shows up in the Demo
    screen.
    The MIDI "Reset all controllers" message now behaves
    differently. A message with parameter value = 0 resets only
    the pitchwheel, mod wheel, pressure and footswitches. A
    message with parameter value = 127 resets all of these plus
    volume and pan. Messages with any other parameter value are
    ignored. The controllers attached to the knobs are no longer
    affected by Reset All Controllers messages. This fixes a
    user complaint about using Proteus 2000 with Cakewalk, which
    by default sends a Reset All Controllers message after every
    'Stop' command. In earlier Proteii software, this message
    set **all** controllers to zero, which tended to cut off the
    filters and have other undesirable effects.
    FX cords now behave correctly when switching between
    presets. An example of this was switching from the 2nd
    preset "kb4:Yo My Dynos" and the 1st preset "kb1:Dynamic
    Grand"; the piano sound would be incorrectly sent to the
    delay effect. The problem occurred when switching to presets
    that had a controller routed to an FX send in the FX cords,
    and also had that controller's initial controller value set
    to zero.
    Problems with a newly selected preset's initial controllers
    affecting held notes when switching between presets have
    been addressed. This was easily heard by turning on Audition
    or just holding a chord and then switching between presets.
    Held notes were usually undesirably affected by the new
    preset's initial controller amounts, causing notes with long
    releases, lowered filters, etc. Now Controllers A-H only
    affect held notes if that preset is the current preset on
    the MIDI channel.
    CRCs
    If you update via MIDI download the CRC is E9EDC219.

  58. Plotnikov V says:

    How do you do.
    I have gained Proteus 2500 but auction and me he was got with fault. The Fault I have avoided but turned out to be that beside it else and is absent the microcircuit BIOS. Her(its) someone have took out of connector and has not installed on place. Help me please to restore the module. Knows anyone what marking beside this microcircuits of the memories? Can prompt anyone, where possible find the lace trim? Can be anyone has прощивка or microcircuit itself. On printed charge she U15 and on connector PLCC32.
    Wait your answer. For earlier many thanks!

  59. Rob Shrimpton says:

    So grateful that there are people out there with knowledge that they are prepared to take the time to share...........

    I have a number of E-Mu modules, and I love them dearly. I have tried updating the OS on my XL1 (non-turbo) using the e-loader and P1K226 dli that you kindly put up.

    Everything goes swimmingly (I have a PC running Windows 7 with M-Audio Uno USB MIDI interface) up to a point then the 'download' stops. I receive an error message in E-loader stating: "DOWNLOAD FAILED!" and the XL1's displays reads ERROR downloading: MIDI: Time out.

    Has anyone encountered this issue please?

  60. Plotnikov V says:

    I have no BIOS. Without BIOS computer does not set the relationship up with module and no renovations of the programs impossible. I it is necessary to know that to search for. Mikrochipa U15 no on printed board. Who can say, there must be a chip? Or this service connector and there микрочип does not be fixed?
    Proteus 2500

  61. Ash says:

    Hi, I have a 2500 which I am using to sequence a Waldorf Microwave XT and was wondering if you can record programmable knob movements to the sequencer, when the knobs are in 'program' mode? I have Knob 1 set up correctly and it affects the filter cut off (cc50)for the XT, but it wont record my movements. However, I can record the assignable controllers (when using the knobs in 'quick edit' mode but they only allow you to assign cc numbers 1-32 and 64-99. The MWXT filter cut off is cc50, so therefore it cannot be assigned to a real time controller and again, not be recorded. Any help much appreciated!

    • Plotnikov V says:

      How do you do! I need the help. Try to repair Proteus 2500. No no information on his(its) completing. If You installed the additional cards with sound. I need information. There is microcircuit In connector U15, or he start;put? This is a square-wave connector in the middle. There was do a good job photo inwardly. Unless will obstruct, send on my address: slava844@yandex.ru. Thank you.

  62. Steve G says:

    Hello. I have a Proteus 2500 and when it boots up it says Ver 1.18. It looks from these posts like there is an update, but I am not sure how to get it or load it. I use a 2013 iMac. Is there a way to update it at this point? Thanks very much!

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